Lesson #10 How to Find a Manager ( or how to be one) (pt 1)

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I guess it is inevitable that I got around to this topic earlier rather than later. For a band management is the key to success. By management I mean a guiding light, a sense of purpose, a game plan, tactical response as a course of action and a broad concerted effort to take the band in one general direction. For most bands just starting out getting a manager is an impossibility. You may be surprised to find out that this problem can continue even though a band ends up with a record deal and gets tours. There are always lots more bands than managers. This seems to be an immutable law of nature. So the question starts out as ‘which bands get managers’?
[Peter Gabriel “Here comes the flood”]
Very quickly it becomes ‘which bands get good managers’? I’ll try to answer these questions in some kind of erratic random disjointed manner. Helpful huh? Let’s look at some real world case studies.
[Neil Young ” A Man Needs a Maid”]

1. Miracle Legion and me. Miracle Legion was just starting out although the band leaders were well known in the Connecticut scene and had played in successful bands. I was a promoter, had already managed one artist and was a DJ. We knew each other. (Gee isn’t funny how all of these stories involve people knowing each other rather then meeting through random demos sent through a great uncle’s elementary school teacher’s friend?) I approached Miracle Legion because I heard a hit in their set, a song called the Backyard. I was right. The record sold and sold and was licensed and sold.The record would be selling today if the lead singer wouldn’t fight with me every time I try to remaster it for I tunes. I also saw in them a band with ambition and connections. I felt I could use their connections to expand my already large pool of contacts. I was right. Through Miracle Legion I made Legions of friends. The list covers people like Bjork and Michael Stipe and continues on through tons of labels like Rough Trade, Mute, 4AD, RCA, Warners, Atlantic etc. and even covers lots of great producers and writers. I used Miracle Legion shamelessly and they used me back. I landed everything a band could want for the band and I also was careful to make sure they had a fuckin’ blast along the way. I only wish I had taken more pictures. The reason I didn’t take more pictures is that pictures are known as “EVIDENCE” in the music business and that’s not always a good thing. Lesson to be learned here – make connections, lots of them, meet everyone that you can, always. These connections will attract young, up and coming managers. These are often the best choice for a band.
[Stiff Little Fingers “Alternative Ulster”]
To further illustrate that point I’ll use another Miracle Legion story. Miracle Legion’s Backyard EP had run its course and the band was now searching for the next step. (I believe that this was ’86) They were booked at CBGB’s as a headliner. They played a great set to a packed house. After they had pried a few dollars out of Hilly the owner they started loading the van in front of the club. There was tons of fans hanging around and one guy was being particularly pesky. Someone in the band said ” If you’re gonna hang around then at least help!” So this guy started humping amps from the doorway to the van. When they finished someone else said ” We’re going to get something to eat. You comin’ along.” The guy hopped into the van and joined the tour which was heading to Boston, Northampton and then points West.

                                                                                                                         [Stevie Wonder “Living for the City”]

I wasn’t managing the band at this point although I was managing other artists. This was one of the two periods in the 80’s and 90’s when I had been “fired” for having the temerity to think for myself.
Two days after the CBGB’s gig, which I had been at, the phone rings, quite early. It’s London.
“Hi this is Janette Lee. Is Brad there? ” Holy shit! I think. THE JEANNETTE LEE? Member of the infamous band PIL with Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols?
“Yeah that’s me.”
“I’m partners in a UK label called Rough Trade Records. You’ve probably never heard of it. I had only been sending them packages for five years at that point…”She’s kidding right? ” but I’ve got a problem. Our co-owner and founder is missing. He hasn’t called his wife in two days. It’s most unusual. The last time he was heard from he was going to a club to see a band you manage Miracle Legion. Have you seen him?”

                                                                                                                    [Fairport Convention “Tam Lin”]

The band had mistakenly kidnapped the owner of the hippest record label on the planet. Within a week they had signed a deal and I was back managing them.

2. Phish and John. I won’t use his name so I can at least be a little more honest. Phish met John because he was the local college herb salesman. They recognized in him a wicked smart businessman that was dead honest. Good combination. When they dangled the carrot of rock money in front of him he cautiously bought in. He didn’t have a clue how to manage a band. He made it up as he went along based on common sense rules. This helped him rather than hindered him. Remember Rock is the land of reinvention. Everything you see in the rock world was made up by people posing as businessmen. I’ve worked in the real business world. Most of the people in the rock business are wash outs from the real world of business. The rock business world is a joke from a business stand point. It is only really serious about taking risks and trying to define culture.
[Creation “Pass the Paintbrush Please”]
Phish are a great case study because the music business has hated them since the beginning and they have thrived. This proves that you do not need the Music Business to be a successful band. Ask Ani DeFranco. In the case of Phish and John you have a talented aggressive businessman and a band that wanted to do it their own way. Lesson here? Talented amateurs often succeed at management.

3. Danny and Rosemary and Nirvana and Hole. Jeez where do I get started on this one. Danny, when he signed Nirvana was already a major name in the business. He was married to Rosemary, one of the most genuine well intentioned people in the music business. She also happened to be a great lawyer as well. Nice person, with a heart and a lawyer, a rare thing. Rosemary and Danny had great taste and often Danny found his management clients through Rosemary’s client list. I believe that’s how they met Kurt. So this is a classic case of a band finding a big New York lawyer and this puts them on the path to the top. But what you can’t see unless you were there at the time is that both Rosemary and Danny knew everyone in the underground rock business. Rosemary bailed a drummer out of jail for me in 88. I knew her for years at that point. Her ex husband was the poet Jim Carroll, may he rest in peace. So you see Rosemary was an active member of the SCENE in New York in the late 70’s. In the music business it is always people you meet early on that help you out later. So the real lesson here is to make connections, lots of them and KEEP IN TOUCH. Let me follow that with saying that one ironclad rule in the music business is never call someone unless you have something REAL to talk about.
                                                                                                                        [Pixies – “Bone Machine”]
When Nirvana signed with Warners the Seattle scene had been hot for a decade. I had already managed and dropped Jim Basnight one of the Seattle proto punkers fifteen years earlier by the time Nirvana got signed. Once again here is a band making it big with a regional scene as a springboard.

My last post was brutally long. So I will break this one up into sections.                                                 
        [ War “Bolero Live”]


5 thoughts on “Lesson #10 How to Find a Manager ( or how to be one) (pt 1)

  1. hiya, just wanted to ask something – my sister and i wan’t to start a album, but once we release it, how do we get signed and get into the charts? we want to sing and write pop songs in the charts, but know about all the fakers, plus i know you are really talking about rock bands ect…. but any advice???? thx

    • Hi Otter Girl,
      Yes, I have tons of advice. It is all contained in my blog. Start reading it. There is over 100,000 words of advice so far on how to become famous…..thanks for the question………..

  2. Hey,
    Thought your blog was really interesting, alot of straight forward no bullshit comments about the music industry. I’ve got a band where we’ve already got strong recordings, play gigs constantly and been on the radio, although we havn’t built up huge fan base yet, that is the stage where we are heading towards now, trying to get many people comming to our gigs. Although we are a western/international band in South Korea which is a very odd position but there are so many bands going strong here which I find very inspirational.
    Will keep a lookout on more new blogs.

  3. Great information, great read. I love that you put this helpful info out there with real life experience and relate it to something “tangible”, something “real”….not just some suit at a record company, who only has a blog because somebody told him it would make him appear cool to be active on social media/web formats, or some crap like that trying to tell people how to do stuff. You actually lived and still live it and are here sharing it for FREE to all the bands, promoters, managers just for the taking and to maybe drive some traffic to your blog. If you ask me, that is a more than affordable resource for us folks in the industry! Thanks for all the great info and sharing!
    Stacey D.

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